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wild wheat dangerous for dogs... trigo silvestre peligroso para perros...

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kiwiespañola
Sat Jul 11 2009, 11:26AMEmail Thread Print View
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Hi everybody, well I would like to talk about wild wheat type plants, and how dangerous they are for all types of dogs...

Quite a while ago, one of my dogs had a sore paw, she was limping and I noticed she had a "hole " in the base of her paw pad and also another hole in between her claw skin( the skin between her fingers) it was terrible. I took her to the vets and the problem was a type of wheat type plant that grows wild here. The grains enter the dog through the skin and travel inside the bloodstream, some come out , some stay wedged. They cause an infection and are very dangerous if they travel through the bloodstream , they can reach the heart and lungs and can actually cause death if not treated.
The treatment we had to give was bathing our dogs foot daily in warm tepid water with iodine, and other times with saltwater. Also antibiotics for infection. Being in a place which is difficult to heal it took months to heal, we even made a type of shoe,using a jandal/flipflop, strapped with a bandage and taped so she could walk, with a hole in it so the wound was open to air. This because the wound would reopen at times. In the end we had to use a cream called Blastoestulima, which helps to construct the skin faster, because the bathing wasn't working on its own. The vets said this could take months and months to completely heal. Finally after about 3 months the wound finally healed. But I have a friend who has a dog who has had this over 6 months with the paw. Also one of her dogs had a wild wheat grain enter his ribside causing an absess. The vet gave antiflam, antibiotics, they have to clean the area and he said if the swelling doesn't go down the dog has to be operated on, because it could cause an infection that would kill the dog , all because of a tiny little wild wheat grain.
SO THIS IS A WARNING TO EVERYONE... PLEASE...
if you have any type of wild wheat type plants in your land, GET RID OF IT, RIP IT OUT when ever you see it!

ahora en español...

hay un tipo de trigo salvaje/ silvestre que es muy malo/ peligroso para perros.
si lo tienes en su terreno , gitarselo como sea.
Los espiñigas entra el piel del perro y puede caminar por la sangre y causar la muerte en un perro. Tengo una perra que la ha tenido en su pata, y duro meses en curarla, entro haciendo un agujerro en la base de su pata, y hizo otro agujero por los dedos, causando mucho dolor, infeccion con pus en su pata. Fue el vetinario y me dijo que era un grano de trigo silvestre que ha causado tanto daño. Me dijo bañarla dos vezes diaria en agua templada con betadine, tambien a vezes con sal. Me mando un anti iflamitorio y antibioticos. Duro meses en curar, como el sitio es muy debil y ella para andar tenia que pisa con la almohadilla de su pata. En el final utlizamos una pomada blastoestulima que secratize muy bien, y tambien fabricamos un zapato para la perra, utilazando una chancla, cortando la, y haciendo un agujerro para que la herida puede respirar, amaramos con un trapo y un fiso. esto era para que la ayudaba a curar, como siempre pisando la herida, no estaba curando muy rapido. Tardo meses en curar en total.
Tambien tengo una amiga que su perro ha tenido la misma problema, pero en el costado donde esta las costillas, paracia un bulto enorme y era esto, un grano de trigo!!
se hizo un tipo de infeccion y el vet tenia que gitar pus, darle antibiotics , antiinflamitorios, y si la inflamacion no bajara, un opèracion, porque si llega en la sangre hasta el corazon , el perro morirar.

UN GRANO TAN PEQUEÑA PUEDE MATAR ... entonces.. por favor si alguien tiene esta tipo de hierba, un trigo silvestre/ salvaje en su terreno. Gitarsela como sea.

Un saludo! Tracey
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suskewitz
24 Aug : 16:05
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26 Jul : 16:42
Sally,
I accidentally pressed the submit button twice on my comment about the stray Mastin. I thought it didn't go through and pressed twice. . I can't delete the extra comment , so can you remove it for me , Thanks !


kiwiespañola
01 Jul : 07:41
hi Franz, are you referring to the last two posts on the forum ?
I have put them in spanish cause its about two monografic shows here in Spain, I copied and pasted them, one was an email that came to me, and the other was to help a friend that has organized one in Asturias, because they haven't got it on the AEPME page yet. So I thought I would just open a couple of posts to let spanish mastin owners know incase they would like to go and compete or go and watch.
At the mo, I haven't got time to translate, will try and do it later on ok.
xx

suskewitz
01 Jul : 06:03
Tracey,

There have been times that you gave us an English translation ,or a resumé, of your Spanish Forum-messages ...

kiwiespañola
09 Jun : 09:26
Sally I wrote a thread on the heat wave nearly a year ago, to move it up to the forum box again I have written a bit more so people can see it and remind them. I will see if I can find any links on it if you can't find it ok. xxx

suskewitz
08 Jun : 08:26
Carlos, will you put a photograph of Rufo at a show on mastininfo or mastingallery ? It would be very nice to see the winner

sally
05 Jun : 01:18
Carlos, felicitaciones a Rufo ganar el título de campeón en el Internacional Costa Rica 2010! ¿Tienes algún nuevas fotos de Rufo para la galería?

sally
04 Jun : 19:21
Tracey, you are right ...
It is not very hot here in Denmark, so I just forget that it is different in other countries.
I think you sent a link in Spanish about about heatwaves / golpe de calor last summer, didn't you?
I will try to find it,,,
Thanks for reminding me Tracey

carlosv
04 Jun : 18:52
buenas Rufo quedo campeon en la internacional Costa Rica 2010

kiwiespañola
04 Jun : 10:43
Hi Sally,
Its starting to really heat up here now , so I think its a good idea to put your warning article up about heatwaves / golpe de calor for the mastin owners to read and to remind them of.
un beso
Trace xxx

kiwiespañola
04 Jun : 10:41
Hi Sally,
Think its about time to put the warning again about heat with mastines,(golpes de calor) the weather is starting to warm up here lots!
hugs
Trace
x

Pastora
24 May : 00:47
Both of mine snore. Frankly, I love it!

suskewitz
22 May : 22:11
The best advice will probably be: learn to live with it !
Some mastines have it; others don't ...
Is she "just moving the air" when she is snoring ?? Nothing can be done ... Does she also makes the floor vibrate ?? Then give her a mattress to lay on ...

laska
21 May : 21:17
My beautifull mastin female sleeps with us inside the house.
She snores like crazy!!!
Does anybody have a sugestion or advice??
Its really funny but also imposible to sleep.
Help!

laska
21 May : 21:14
My beautifull mastin female sleeps with us inside the house.
She snores like crazy!!!
Does anybody have a sugestion or advice??
Its really funny but also imposiible to sleep.
Help!

Pastora
19 May : 04:10
I wonder if there is any difference in longetivity between mastines who work with / guard livestock for a living compared to those that are strictly show ring dogs or pets. Has anyone studied this? It seems to me, if a dog is allowed lots of room to safely roam and exercise, it can only assist in his living to a ripe old age. I wonder if having a 'mission' to protection some stock helps a mastine 'hang on' and live longer....? Not that competition in the ring isn't a 'mission' and I am sure there are dogs who live to show and parade before judges and are very happy, healthy dogs who live long lives.... Just pondering this...that's all... !

MastinMel
10 May : 19:02
Do you suppose the foundation stock of today's breed when AEPME was formed, came out of a small gene pool and was there a lot of line-breeding going on? would that be the reason there are so many problems in the breed now?

MastinMel
10 May : 18:32
I think health, temperament and workability should come first and conformation second priority. Breeders ought to goal for the "entire package" if you know what I mean..

sally
30 Apr : 16:43
Frans, as usual I did not express myself very well
I am sure many mastines live more than 6-7 years, but many of the mastines I saw at shows - and many of the mastines who had great results in the shows - suddenly past away at the age 6-7... Quite too many...
I am sure (hope) that breeders take things like overall health and longevity very serious and want to integrate these factors in their breeding-plans...
I think it would be a great idea to publish "lineages" of mastines that reach a GOOD, ACCEPTABLE age instead of lineages of mastines that "produce" champions...

suskewitz
30 Apr : 13:02
Sally, you say that dying at six, seven years of age is starting to become the norm. I really hope that's not correct. I also know that there are (several ? many ?) breeders -as well in Spain as outside Spain- that take things like overall health and longevity very serious and want to integrate these factors in their breeding-plans. Hmm ... maybe we should publish "lineages" of mastines that reach a GOOD, ACCEPTABLE age instead of lineages of mastines that "produce" champions. Shall we start with reviving the forum-topic on "life expectancy for mastines" ... ?

sally
23 Apr : 22:08
Frans, it may be a sad story behind the photo of me and Toro - the hard thing for me and my son was to loose him at such a young age...
6 years of age is not an acceptable life expectancy for a mastín.
Unfortunately, Toro's untimely death is not unique. It's unfortunately not uncommon that Mastines die around age five, six seven years. That is actually quite before it approaches the norm. It's scary, especially because there just does not seem to be any interest in exploring why these Mastines had such a short lifetime.

sally
23 Apr : 21:41
MastinMel, yes I had a nice 'happy' birthday - NO, everthing did not went well, I crossed the line - and entered into the 'flock' of 'old people'
If you ever go to Spain, and with your 'obvious passion' about the Mastín español, you really should visit Spain sometime (might give you quite a new opinion about the breed) ... it would be a very good idea to visit Gregorio, he is on my top list too... - but remember, there are many breeders/shepherds/owners in Spain that are very much 'worth a visit'

suskewitz
20 Apr : 15:13
Sally,
It is a very sad story behind the picture of you and Toro on the frontpage, but the picture as such is great.
Not everyone who lost his (or her) mastín has a "last memento" like this.

MastinMel
08 Apr : 02:10
Sorry this is late, Sally (haven't been here in a while) - hope you had a happy birthday and all went well! If I ever get to Spain Gregorio of Abelgas will be on top of the list of breeders to meet as I am quite impressed with his mastines!

Best wishes
-Mel